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What does the MarkLogic out of the box rest api return when deleting a document fails?



2019 Community Moderator ElectionREST API error return good practicesWhat REST PUT/POST/DELETE calls should return by a convention?Returning RESTful response codes in PlayRESTful undeleteREST API 404: Bad URI, or Missing Resource?Setting permissions on a document using MarkLogic's REST APIDocument versioning with MarkLogic REST APIREST-API, proper HTTP status code for invalid DELETEMarkLogic v1/transactions create by REST APIWhat is the HTTP status return code for a successful DELETE statement in REST?










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The MarkLogic documentation gives information for a success response, but no information for a failed delete.



https://docs.marklogic.com/REST/DELETE/v1/documents



I would expect a 404 if the document doesn't exist, a 410 if it's already been deleted, or a 403 if I don't have authorization to delete the document.



From my limited testing, it seems I get a 204 if the document doesn't exist, and a 400 if I'm not authorized.










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    The MarkLogic documentation gives information for a success response, but no information for a failed delete.



    https://docs.marklogic.com/REST/DELETE/v1/documents



    I would expect a 404 if the document doesn't exist, a 410 if it's already been deleted, or a 403 if I don't have authorization to delete the document.



    From my limited testing, it seems I get a 204 if the document doesn't exist, and a 400 if I'm not authorized.










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      The MarkLogic documentation gives information for a success response, but no information for a failed delete.



      https://docs.marklogic.com/REST/DELETE/v1/documents



      I would expect a 404 if the document doesn't exist, a 410 if it's already been deleted, or a 403 if I don't have authorization to delete the document.



      From my limited testing, it seems I get a 204 if the document doesn't exist, and a 400 if I'm not authorized.










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      The MarkLogic documentation gives information for a success response, but no information for a failed delete.



      https://docs.marklogic.com/REST/DELETE/v1/documents



      I would expect a 404 if the document doesn't exist, a 410 if it's already been deleted, or a 403 if I don't have authorization to delete the document.



      From my limited testing, it seems I get a 204 if the document doesn't exist, and a 400 if I'm not authorized.







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          Some REST practioners assert the DELETE request should be idempotent. So long as the document doesn't exist after the operation finishes, the operation succeeded.



          That said, recent versions of the REST API allow a check parameter on document delete requests. If check is set to "exists," the operation should throw an error if the document doesn't exist.



          In passing, I don't see how the 404 and 410 cases could be distinguished, given that there's no operational state on the server.



          Hoping that helps,






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          • Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

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          You could take an API-first approach and build your own great REST APIs directly on MarkLogic where you take full control over the URI Path as well as response codes and anything else for that matter with XQRS.



          declare
          %rest:DELETE
          %rest:path("/db/$uri=.*")
          %xdmp:update
          function delete-doc($uri as xs:string)
          if(fn:doc-available($uri)) then (
          xdmp:document-delete($uri),
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="410" message="Gone"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          else (
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="404" message="Not Found"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          ;





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          • i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 15:41






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            The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

            – Charles Foster
            Mar 7 at 15:55












          • I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 17:47










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          Some REST practioners assert the DELETE request should be idempotent. So long as the document doesn't exist after the operation finishes, the operation succeeded.



          That said, recent versions of the REST API allow a check parameter on document delete requests. If check is set to "exists," the operation should throw an error if the document doesn't exist.



          In passing, I don't see how the 404 and 410 cases could be distinguished, given that there's no operational state on the server.



          Hoping that helps,






          share|improve this answer























          • Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 9 at 2:13















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          Some REST practioners assert the DELETE request should be idempotent. So long as the document doesn't exist after the operation finishes, the operation succeeded.



          That said, recent versions of the REST API allow a check parameter on document delete requests. If check is set to "exists," the operation should throw an error if the document doesn't exist.



          In passing, I don't see how the 404 and 410 cases could be distinguished, given that there's no operational state on the server.



          Hoping that helps,






          share|improve this answer























          • Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 9 at 2:13













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          Some REST practioners assert the DELETE request should be idempotent. So long as the document doesn't exist after the operation finishes, the operation succeeded.



          That said, recent versions of the REST API allow a check parameter on document delete requests. If check is set to "exists," the operation should throw an error if the document doesn't exist.



          In passing, I don't see how the 404 and 410 cases could be distinguished, given that there's no operational state on the server.



          Hoping that helps,






          share|improve this answer













          Some REST practioners assert the DELETE request should be idempotent. So long as the document doesn't exist after the operation finishes, the operation succeeded.



          That said, recent versions of the REST API allow a check parameter on document delete requests. If check is set to "exists," the operation should throw an error if the document doesn't exist.



          In passing, I don't see how the 404 and 410 cases could be distinguished, given that there's no operational state on the server.



          Hoping that helps,







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          • Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 9 at 2:13

















          • Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 9 at 2:13
















          Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 9 at 2:13





          Right. To get the 404 or 410 I would have to do some magic. Instead of deleting the item, I'd delete it's contents, but leave the resource at it's original URI, and do a read before a delete. Alternatively, and I think this is the solution I'll be opting for, I won't actually delete the document, but I'll instead add it to a special deleted collection that doesn't show up in search.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 9 at 2:13













          0














          You could take an API-first approach and build your own great REST APIs directly on MarkLogic where you take full control over the URI Path as well as response codes and anything else for that matter with XQRS.



          declare
          %rest:DELETE
          %rest:path("/db/$uri=.*")
          %xdmp:update
          function delete-doc($uri as xs:string)
          if(fn:doc-available($uri)) then (
          xdmp:document-delete($uri),
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="410" message="Gone"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          else (
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="404" message="Not Found"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          ;





          share|improve this answer























          • i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 15:41






          • 1





            The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

            – Charles Foster
            Mar 7 at 15:55












          • I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 17:47















          0














          You could take an API-first approach and build your own great REST APIs directly on MarkLogic where you take full control over the URI Path as well as response codes and anything else for that matter with XQRS.



          declare
          %rest:DELETE
          %rest:path("/db/$uri=.*")
          %xdmp:update
          function delete-doc($uri as xs:string)
          if(fn:doc-available($uri)) then (
          xdmp:document-delete($uri),
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="410" message="Gone"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          else (
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="404" message="Not Found"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          ;





          share|improve this answer























          • i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 15:41






          • 1





            The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

            – Charles Foster
            Mar 7 at 15:55












          • I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 17:47













          0












          0








          0







          You could take an API-first approach and build your own great REST APIs directly on MarkLogic where you take full control over the URI Path as well as response codes and anything else for that matter with XQRS.



          declare
          %rest:DELETE
          %rest:path("/db/$uri=.*")
          %xdmp:update
          function delete-doc($uri as xs:string)
          if(fn:doc-available($uri)) then (
          xdmp:document-delete($uri),
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="410" message="Gone"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          else (
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="404" message="Not Found"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          ;





          share|improve this answer













          You could take an API-first approach and build your own great REST APIs directly on MarkLogic where you take full control over the URI Path as well as response codes and anything else for that matter with XQRS.



          declare
          %rest:DELETE
          %rest:path("/db/$uri=.*")
          %xdmp:update
          function delete-doc($uri as xs:string)
          if(fn:doc-available($uri)) then (
          xdmp:document-delete($uri),
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="410" message="Gone"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          else (
          <rest:response>
          <http:response status="404" message="Not Found"/>
          </rest:response>
          )
          ;






          share|improve this answer












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          Charles FosterCharles Foster

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          • i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 15:41






          • 1





            The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

            – Charles Foster
            Mar 7 at 15:55












          • I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 17:47

















          • i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 15:41






          • 1





            The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

            – Charles Foster
            Mar 7 at 15:55












          • I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

            – TravisChambers
            Mar 7 at 17:47
















          i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 7 at 15:41





          i see what you're saying, but how can i return a 404 not found if i don't know the document wasn't found? i get a 204 success whether the document was found or not. i am building my own rest api on top of MarkLogic's and I'm trying to find out all the possible failed responses MarkLogic might send back, as well as how I can give users of my API accurate status codes.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 7 at 15:41




          1




          1





          The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

          – Charles Foster
          Mar 7 at 15:55






          The approach I am suggesting involves building your own REST API which is directly served from MarkLogic Server itself using the XQRS framework over and above writing a Middle Tier component that interfaces with MarkLogic via MarkLogic's REST API. This approach would give you 100% control over MarkLogic as you're able to invoke any of MarkLogic's thousands of functions as well as having total control of what your REST APIs looks like. The XQRS framework allows you to build REST APIs in a manner that's similar to the very popular JAX-RS, whilst giving total freedom with the database.

          – Charles Foster
          Mar 7 at 15:55














          I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 7 at 17:47





          I'm with you now. I'll consider it, but rewriting the MarkLogic out of the box REST apis is not something I want to do. Especially in xquery.

          – TravisChambers
          Mar 7 at 17:47

















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